View previous topic | View next topic |
Author |
Message |
kaue1990
Joined: 05 Jul 2004 Posts: 125 Location: europe
|
Posted: Sun, 11-Jul-2004 3:45 Post subject: Stick broke..... |
|
|
Whats happens when the stick of the ribbon broke? The gymnastic looses all the points of the presentation? |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Marie
Joined: 26 Oct 2003 Posts: 1293
|
Posted: Sun, 11-Jul-2004 8:07 Post subject: |
|
|
She has to leave the broken apparatus outside the carpet and take her reserve one to finish the routine. That is a deduction of 0,5+0,1. If she doesn't finish the routine, she gets no points (according to the COP).
If the apparatus breaks at the end of the routine, the deduction is 0,3.
I'm on vacation without the COP, please correct if I'm mistaken. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Kaja =)
Joined: 06 May 2004 Posts: 5421 Location: Norway
|
Posted: Sun, 11-Jul-2004 12:52 Post subject: |
|
|
But what if they don't have a reserve one??? They'll just have to leave the carpet??? _________________ And those who danced were thought to be quite insane by those who could not hear the music |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Marie
Joined: 26 Oct 2003 Posts: 1293
|
Posted: Sun, 11-Jul-2004 15:07 Post subject: |
|
|
Yup!
That's what Bessonova did with ribbon last year, in Corbeil (or was it Thiais?). She actually got a score, I didn't understand why...
Though, I have seen a Russian competition (championship?) where a gymnast was thrown a new hoop when her own broke. A young girl even run out on the carpet to pick it up the broken hoop while the gymnast was in another corner!
It has happened a couple of times in Norway as well, Torny Karin Hesle had a terrible knot in her rope at a Norwegian cup competition in 2001, Vibecke Hoel broke her hoop in a similar competition in 2002 I think. I believe they were both given 0 points. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Jonathan
Joined: 26 Oct 2003 Posts: 2205 Location: Paris
|
Posted: Sun, 11-Jul-2004 15:11 Post subject: |
|
|
Yes, if the apparatus breaks then the gymnast should receive 0, like I said before, its weird that in Corbeil when Anya had that incident that the FIG didn't know the COP that they wrote. _________________ Jon |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Cony
Joined: 22 Jan 2004 Posts: 23
|
Posted: Sun, 11-Jul-2004 17:55 Post subject: |
|
|
Actually, they can get a score, it depends on how far they had gotten with the routine, I don´t have my COP now with me so I´m not sure of the time and deductions but it is something like this: if you stop your routine before the first half you get 0 points, if it is after that you get a deduction (don´t remember how much though) in AV and EX if I´m not mistaken and you get points for TV for what you actually had time to do.
I´ll try to look it up and give you the exact answer but I do remember that it is something like this. _________________ Aim for the moon, even if you miss you will land among the stars!!! |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Marie
Joined: 26 Oct 2003 Posts: 1293
|
Posted: Sun, 11-Jul-2004 21:12 Post subject: |
|
|
This used to be in the COP, but it is not in the 2001-2004 edition. I am certain, we searched the entire COP for it and there was no word about stopping before or after half a routine. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Jonathan
Joined: 26 Oct 2003 Posts: 2205 Location: Paris
|
Posted: Mon, 12-Jul-2004 9:49 Post subject: |
|
|
Form Page 9 of COP:
5.4.1 - If the apparatus breaks during an exercise or gets caught in the small beams of the ceiling, the gymnast or the group withh not be authorized to start over.
5.4.2 - However the gymnast or the group will not be penalized for the broken apparatus or the apparatus caught in the small beams of the seiling, but will only be penalized for the concequences
5.4.3. - In such case a gymnast or group may -
+either stop the exerceise
+continue with replacement apparatus
Note: no gymnast is allowed to continue an exercise with broken apparatus.
Penalties - If the gymnast or the group stops the exercise, the exercise will not be evaluated. _________________ Jon |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Balanceena
Joined: 30 Oct 2003 Posts: 53
|
Posted: Wed, 14-Jul-2004 8:22 Post subject: |
|
|
so if you broke your stick you broke your stick up in the ceilings, what should you do to be least penalized? _________________ Gymnastics should not be a sport where girls are mistreated |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Marie
Joined: 26 Oct 2003 Posts: 1293
|
Posted: Wed, 14-Jul-2004 10:57 Post subject: |
|
|
Balanceena: As written above:
MarieMM wrote: | She has to leave the broken apparatus outside the carpet and take her reserve one to finish the routine. That is a deduction of 0,5+0,1. If she doesn't finish the routine, she gets no points (according to the COP).
If the apparatus breaks at the end of the routine, the deduction is 0,3. |
If the apparatus breaks at the end and goes outside the field (sometimes happens with hoop), the deduction is 0,3+0,1. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Kelly B
Joined: 28 Oct 2003 Posts: 369 Location: USA
|
Posted: Thu, 19-Aug-2004 21:40 Post subject: |
|
|
Why are gymnasts penalized for broken apparatus? I mean, it's not their fault that it broke, unless they purposefully step on the stick during their routine or something. Shouldn't they be able to do the routine over with a new apparatus? _________________ -Kelly |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Marie
Joined: 26 Oct 2003 Posts: 1293
|
Posted: Fri, 20-Aug-2004 9:15 Post subject: |
|
|
Apparatus doesn't break if treated correct. (Perhaps except certain hoop brands...) |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Alina Fan
Joined: 26 Oct 2003 Posts: 751 Location: Zagreb, Croatia
|
Posted: Mon, 23-Aug-2004 18:52 Post subject: |
|
|
I have video of Murata in which her ribb is broken and someone trow her another ribbon...I'm sorry for Yukari, but it was so funny _________________ Žuja je zakon!
Marina for Beijing! The girls has it all. Handling, expression, artistry, flexibility, perfect smile...everything that a gymnast needs to be just perfect! |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Escalina RSG.net Moderator
Joined: 06 Mar 2004 Posts: 9963 Location: Germany, Berlin
|
Posted: Mon, 23-Aug-2004 20:19 Post subject: |
|
|
Understand I right?There was somebody who gave her another ribbon? _________________ If you can dream it you can do it |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Alina Fan
Joined: 26 Oct 2003 Posts: 751 Location: Zagreb, Croatia
|
Posted: Mon, 23-Aug-2004 22:09 Post subject: |
|
|
Escalina wrote: | Understand I right?There was somebody who gave her another ribbon? |
Or coach trowed it...I only know that moment before drop there was no reserve ribbon to pick up there... _________________ Žuja je zakon!
Marina for Beijing! The girls has it all. Handling, expression, artistry, flexibility, perfect smile...everything that a gymnast needs to be just perfect! |
|
Back to top |
|
|
|