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dsafilipe
Joined: 29 Jun 2007 Posts: 392 Location: Foz do Iguaçu - Brazil
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Posted: Sat, 25-Jul-2009 15:59 Post subject: |
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..............Thank you... We all - I think - perfectly understood.... _________________ (...) e nos teus olhos eu vejo o susto e o grão de uma lágrima sobre a qual me concentro (...)
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Anna Kull
Joined: 27 Oct 2003 Posts: 5153 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Sun, 26-Jul-2009 18:28 Post subject: |
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Thank you very much Sery!!!
No I've got one more question (as allways once I learnt about one thing I like to know the nesxt one)
How are the rules for this kind of flexibilities? _________________ RG is the true reason to go on in my life! |
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Anna Kull
Joined: 27 Oct 2003 Posts: 5153 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Sun, 26-Jul-2009 18:33 Post subject: |
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As earlier soneone seams to have miss understood: I am NOT aprofessional in RG but just wanting to learn as much as I can about it _________________ RG is the true reason to go on in my life! |
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Sery
Joined: 26 Oct 2003 Posts: 497
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Posted: Mon, 27-Jul-2009 4:47 Post subject: |
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Ok, then now the flexibility fouettes
the base is 0.20 (fixed point)
And you can add the following points to the base:
+ 0.30
+ passing from one split position to another split position, or ring, moving with
different shapes and level of the leg without rotation of the trunk « temps fouette » (the English Code has an error in translation)
+ 0.40
+ passing from one split position to another split position, or ring, moving, with
different shapes and level of the leg + rotation of the trunk « temps fouette »
+ 0,20
+ passing from a split position to a position with leg horizontal, moving with different shapes and level of the leg with or without rotation of the trunk (or vice versa) « temps fouette »
+ 0,10
+ for each additional leg swing (for « temps fouette ») (the difficulty may have a
maximum of 4 leg swings in total
now the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq1OOZ6j-Ok
1:18
She has back split+side split+ring
I.e. passing from a split to another split with rotation of the trunk - 0.40 AND ring (additional leg swing) - 0.10, thus : 0.20(base)+0.40+0.10=0.70
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJdoyh5G7gU
1:38
ring+split+ring
I.e. passing from a ring to split with rotation of the trunk - 0.40 AND
ring (additional swing) - 0.10 = 0.70
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTJlJGQPsMo
1:32
I.e. passing from a split to another split without rotation of the trunk - 0.30 + additional swing in ring 0.10 = 0.60
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFr_zsq4nHY
0:43
Interesting example: She writes 0.70 for this difficulty in her form
Passing from a split to another split with rotation +0.40
but the additional swing is attitude! which must be a split or ring. _________________ Go Alina, you are the Olympic Champion 2008!!! |
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Anna Kull
Joined: 27 Oct 2003 Posts: 5153 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Mon, 27-Jul-2009 10:31 Post subject: |
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THANK'S A LOT _________________ RG is the true reason to go on in my life! |
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splitlegtumbling
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cidlover
Joined: 07 Dec 2008 Posts: 862 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat, 29-Aug-2009 16:29 Post subject: |
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That looks like a Ronde balance. I'm not too good at finding the values for those. _________________ I have a gymnastics blog again. Here we go. toomanyamanars.blogspot.com |
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becca
Joined: 18 Apr 2006 Posts: 83 Location: Europe
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Posted: Tue, 15-Sep-2009 2:43 Post subject: |
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I am not 100% sure but i am guessing that the value would be 0.8
1) high side without help - 0.3 base
2) Ring without help - change of direction and shape
3) high side without help
4) ring without help
0.3 for base and 0.5 for fouette.
I dont know if there is a bonus for 4 heel supports or not.
Also another quick question, for the fouette balance they need:
minimum 3 times heel support, with changing the shape and/or the
level and/or the direction of the gymnast = +0.5
to be classed as change of direction does there have to be at least 1/2 turn of the body or would 1/4 turn be sufficient enough?
for example;
1) horziontal balance to front
2) attitude (with only heel support no turn)
3) passe balance (with 1/4 turn of body)
would the value of this be 0.2 for base + 0.5 for fouette = 0.7 |
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cidlover
Joined: 07 Dec 2008 Posts: 862 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat, 19-Sep-2009 16:01 Post subject: |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkLXdOtfkWs
I never figured out how to evaluate 0:28-0:31. does it count as one or two difficulties? _________________ I have a gymnastics blog again. Here we go. toomanyamanars.blogspot.com |
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AnnaBessonovaNumber1Fan
Joined: 26 Jan 2008 Posts: 1609 Location: England
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Posted: Sat, 19-Sep-2009 19:43 Post subject: |
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cidlover wrote: | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkLXdOtfkWs
I never figured out how to evaluate 0:28-0:31. does it count as one or two difficulties? |
One. It's a pivot. 360 Degree Horizontal pivot, changing to 360 Degree Penchee = 0.9 _________________ Anna's The Real Olympic Champion! |
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cidlover
Joined: 07 Dec 2008 Posts: 862 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat, 19-Sep-2009 20:10 Post subject: |
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Then why do the gymnasts perform the penche rotations on a flat foot? _________________ I have a gymnastics blog again. Here we go. toomanyamanars.blogspot.com |
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dsafilipe
Joined: 29 Jun 2007 Posts: 392 Location: Foz do Iguaçu - Brazil
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Posted: Sat, 19-Sep-2009 21:18 Post subject: |
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cidlover wrote: | Then why do the gymnasts perform the penche rotations on a flat foot? |
The first element has to be done on releve; the penché is a flexibility and can be done on flat foot, but the whole element is a pivot and I have no idea why... _________________ (...) e nos teus olhos eu vejo o susto e o grão de uma lágrima sobre a qual me concentro (...)
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AnnaBessonovaNumber1Fan
Joined: 26 Jan 2008 Posts: 1609 Location: England
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Posted: Sat, 19-Sep-2009 21:49 Post subject: |
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dsafilipe wrote: | cidlover wrote: | Then why do the gymnasts perform the penche rotations on a flat foot? |
The first element has to be done on releve; the penché is a flexibility and can be done on flat foot, but the whole element is a pivot and I have no idea why... |
It's a combination... Remember the Split Leap (With Ring) Where the Gymnast fixes Ring balance as she lands? That's a combination, but classes as a Leap because that's the first element performed. I guess its the same. _________________ Anna's The Real Olympic Champion! |
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dsafilipe
Joined: 29 Jun 2007 Posts: 392 Location: Foz do Iguaçu - Brazil
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Posted: Sat, 19-Sep-2009 23:18 Post subject: |
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AnnaBessonovaNumber1Fan wrote: | dsafilipe wrote: | cidlover wrote: | Then why do the gymnasts perform the penche rotations on a flat foot? |
The first element has to be done on releve; the penché is a flexibility and can be done on flat foot, but the whole element is a pivot and I have no idea why... |
It's a combination... Remember the Split Leap (With Ring) Where the Gymnast fixes Ring balance as she lands? That's a combination, but classes as a Leap because that's the first element performed. I guess its the same. |
Thanks for the explanation; I did not know that these combinations are classified according the first element performed... _________________ (...) e nos teus olhos eu vejo o susto e o grão de uma lágrima sobre a qual me concentro (...)
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AnnaBessonovaNumber1Fan
Joined: 26 Jan 2008 Posts: 1609 Location: England
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Posted: Wed, 28-Oct-2009 20:12 Post subject: |
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What is the value of this Temps Fouette in Maksymenko's Ribbon routine?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMKuyLy0kEU 50-54 seconds. _________________ Anna's The Real Olympic Champion! |
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