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Hoops and Grand Fouettes



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PostPosted: Fri, 26-Aug-2011 20:16    Post subject: Analyzing Video Reply with quote

For me, the COP is kind of hard to understand.(I have not read through all of it) I know on YouTube, someone made a video that explained the start values of gymnasts' routines in artistic gymnastics. I was wondering if it was possible for rhythmic gymnastics.
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PostPosted: Tue, 27-Sep-2011 10:43    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know if there is a video. But for RG you have Difficulty value splitted into D1 (Body) and D2 (Apparatus).

D1 consists of maximum 12 difficulties for seniors and 10 for juniors. There are jumps, balances, pivots and flexibility/wave difficulties. There are different compulsory difficulties for different apparatus. For seniors:
Rope: 4 jumps and 4 pivots
Hoop: minimum 2, maximum 4 of every type
Ball: 4 jumps, 4 flexibility/waves
Clubs: 4 balances, 4 pivots
Ribbon: 4 jumps, 4 pivots
The rest 4 are not compulsory and can be chosen freely by the gymnast (or not declared at all).
The maximum value of D1 is 10 points to declare.

D2 consists of unlimited number of apparatus elements. However there are compulsory 3 Risks (throw with at least 2 rotations of the body connected to the throw). Also there can not be two exactly identical repetitions of any element. For example if gymnast declares throw in a jump several times, the jumps must me different. The total value of D2 can be maximum 10 points.

Also you can have original elements that give the gymnast extra points, they need to be approved by FIG before competitions. You can have both body and apparatus originalities.

In the end of the total D-score is calculated: (D1+D2)/2

This is very general. If you have more questions about details, please feel free to ask!
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PostPosted: Tue, 27-Sep-2011 13:30    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Hoops and Grand Fouettes meant a sort of video-montage with some clips which show gymnasts performing a D1 (or even a D2) element and the value of the element. Wink
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Tashik



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PostPosted: Tue, 27-Sep-2011 20:37    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright, I didn't understand it, but now I get it Smile a lot of work to do with D2 Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue, 27-Sep-2011 21:28    Post subject: Re: Analyzing Video Reply with quote

Hoops and Grand Fouettes wrote:
For me, the COP is kind of hard to understand.(I have not read through all of it) I know on YouTube, someone made a video that explained the start values of gymnasts' routines in artistic gymnastics. I was wondering if it was possible for rhythmic gymnastics.


You mean Mostepanovafan's videos? Those are really helpful Smile
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PostPosted: Tue, 27-Sep-2011 22:15    Post subject: Re: Analyzing Video Reply with quote

Hoops and Grand Fouettes wrote:
For me, the COP is kind of hard to understand.(I have not read through all of it) I know on YouTube, someone made a video that explained the start values of gymnasts' routines in artistic gymnastics. I was wondering if it was possible for rhythmic gymnastics.

Hey, I'm making a montage with elements and their scores, not quite what you were talking about, but yes, similar.
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PostPosted: Tue, 27-Sep-2011 22:30    Post subject: Re: Analyzing Video Reply with quote

fioredelmale wrote:
Hoops and Grand Fouettes wrote:
For me, the COP is kind of hard to understand.(I have not read through all of it) I know on YouTube, someone made a video that explained the start values of gymnasts' routines in artistic gymnastics. I was wondering if it was possible for rhythmic gymnastics.


You mean Mostepanovafan's videos? Those are really helpful Smile

Yes! I have Nastia Liukin's Beam Guide on right now.
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PostPosted: Fri, 7-Oct-2011 3:21    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for your sharing post.
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Hoops and Grand Fouettes



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PostPosted: Mon, 22-Jun-2015 4:25    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I made this post a long time ago, but just recently (within the last year) LoveRGMusic has been posting breakdowns of specific routines' start values and found them very helpful. If anyone wants to view them, here is her channel (she has the guides arranged by apparatus): https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8TEzGajO1JjRfA-1zJqceg/playlists
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PostPosted: Tue, 19-Jan-2016 21:43    Post subject: Thank you Reply with quote

Thank you Hoops and Grand Fouettes..

I am practicing my judging and these videos are very helpful, so glad you posted the link.
Hoops and Grand Fouettes wrote:
So I made this post a long time ago, but just recently (within the last year) LoveRGMusic has been posting breakdowns of specific routines' start values and found them very helpful. If anyone wants to view them, here is her channel (she has the guides arranged by apparatus): https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8TEzGajO1JjRfA-1zJqceg/playlists

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