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Janita
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Posted: Sat, 20-Oct-2007 15:52 Post subject: |
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ZKata wrote: | Do the ones with a German language understand the French in Switzerland? You are it for example in Canada English speakers the French, and in this manner long? |
this depends... In belgium officially theire are 3 spoken language (dutch, french and german). As for this reason, in primary school from 10 till 12 everybody is obliged to learn the other language. But after it depends on the part where you live in . In the dutch part we are obliged to continue with french (if you learn german it depends on what you follow in school) but in the french part they start with english and quit dutch. I know in the world english is more important but imo they should continue with dutch so that they can understand something from our region when they come to us. And believe they come a lot to us (f.ex. holiday at the sea).
In switzerland i believe they don't learn the other language. I'm not quiet sure but i know that when Roger Federer moved to the french part, he didn't understand a word and i believe he already was 16. So this means he didn't learn it at school (now he speaks french fluently). |
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ZKata
Joined: 17 Jul 2007 Posts: 920 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sat, 20-Oct-2007 16:23 Post subject: |
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Rotkwicca many successes and for everybody who studies a language or plans!
Janita I did not know this. And not bad this? A commissioner may be heavy for me in that manner. |
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Gergely
Joined: 27 Oct 2003 Posts: 2260 Location: Budapest, Hungary
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Posted: Sat, 20-Oct-2007 21:25 Post subject: |
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Hungarian of course
I have been learning English since I was 9, so now I'm in the 18th year. But you can never learn enough
I've also learnt German in high school (though I haven't really practiced it lately, which is a shame. I'm quite good at understanding it though), a bit of Italian, and picked up some Greek while living there for a half year.
If time and work allows, I'd like to go to a local Greek course in the near future. _________________ "Time is a great teacher; unfortunately it kills all its pupils." |
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David
Joined: 04 Nov 2006 Posts: 1100
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Posted: Sat, 20-Oct-2007 22:14 Post subject: |
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I'm speak Polish and Eglish but now I'm training Russian _________________ My RhythmicWallpapers Blog:
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Guillermo RSG.net Moderator
Joined: 26 Oct 2003 Posts: 909 Location: Spain, Madrid
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Posted: Sat, 20-Oct-2007 23:14 Post subject: |
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I speak Spanish as my mother tongue, together with Galician (a regional language in Northwestern Spain), English, German, Swedish (and therefore I might understand basic Norwegian, much better in written form, of course) and right now I'm in my first lessons of Russian.
Furthermore I can understand a normal conversation in Italian, Frech and Portuguese, as they are all Latin languages, but couldn't be able to keep going in a fast rhythm. And of course, I can't say I speak those languages, only that I can keep along with them and it would be rather easy to get a high level in a very short time.
I was also interested in learning Chinese, but I must be realistic and try to use my scarce free time in a reasonable way.
Anyhow, I love learnjing languages and I think I'll go on on it till the day I die.
Greetings
Guillermo |
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FaerieDevilish
Joined: 10 Apr 2006 Posts: 1080 Location: Mexico City, Mexico
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Posted: Sun, 21-Oct-2007 0:05 Post subject: |
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Guillermo wrote: |
I was also interested in learning Chinese, but I must be realistic and try to use my scarce free time in a reasonable way. |
I thought the same as well, but I don't think that Chinese is precisely the way we picture it. The part I find the hardest is learning the symbols, which is important, but I have learned a lot in the months I've been in Chinese course. I am sure that, if you study it for two years, you can have a fair conversation with someone in it. |
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tigrenoir
Joined: 27 Oct 2005 Posts: 5015 Location: Saquenay, Quebec (Canada)
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Posted: Sun, 21-Oct-2007 9:37 Post subject: |
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Guillermo wrote: |
I was also interested in learning Chinese, but I must be realistic and try to use my scarce free time in a reasonable way. |
I think it's a bit like russian : the most difficult is to learn the letter, but after I think the rest is easier _________________ www.lagr-forum.com : the French RG forum
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Janita
Joined: 06 Apr 2004 Posts: 2884
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Posted: Sun, 21-Oct-2007 10:35 Post subject: |
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tigrenoir wrote: | Guillermo wrote: |
I was also interested in learning Chinese, but I must be realistic and try to use my scarce free time in a reasonable way. |
I think it's a bit like russian : the most difficult is to learn the letter, but after I think the rest is easier |
i'm sorry tigrenoir to disappoint you, but chinese is a lot more difficult then russian (not that russian is easy). The good thing of english, french, spanish and even russian is that their exist an alphabet. For chinese an alphabet does not exist. The signes (characters) are also not by letter, as we are used to, but by tone. And even by tone ... something that for us can be the same, their exist (if i remember correctly) 4 different tones (the same height, going up, going down, down and up (or vica versa)).
what also exist in china is newspapers for people who can read 2000 signes and then one for who can read 5000 signes and for 10.000 signes. They talk about the same but it's explained easier/more difficicult. When you can read the alphabet, you are able to read every word in french, english, dutch, german, spanish, but in china it is possible they can speak all words, but can not read all of them. My niece of 9 is able to read everything although she will not understand every word as she is too young. You understand the difference? |
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Kaja =)
Joined: 06 May 2004 Posts: 5421 Location: Norway
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Posted: Sun, 21-Oct-2007 15:01 Post subject: |
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tigrenoir wrote: | Guillermo wrote: |
I was also interested in learning Chinese, but I must be realistic and try to use my scarce free time in a reasonable way. |
I think it's a bit like russian : the most difficult is to learn the letter, but after I think the rest is easier |
For me it's been no problem learning the cyrillic alphabet on my own... so maybe I'll find it pretty easy to learn the language (in school)! _________________ And those who danced were thought to be quite insane by those who could not hear the music |
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ybalka_
Joined: 10 Oct 2004 Posts: 1538
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Posted: Sun, 21-Oct-2007 16:15 Post subject: |
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yes , the cyrillic alphabet is no difficult, I've learnt by myself to read it by watching videos and read interviews and all that we see here everyday
So, I can read a russian text but I've no idea what I'm reading
As for russian grammar...well, i think is kind of hard, isn't it? |
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FaerieDevilish
Joined: 10 Apr 2006 Posts: 1080 Location: Mexico City, Mexico
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Posted: Sun, 21-Oct-2007 16:38 Post subject: |
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Kaja =) wrote: | tigrenoir wrote: |
I think it's a bit like russian : the most difficult is to learn the letter, but after I think the rest is easier |
For me it's been no problem learning the cyrillic alphabet on my own... so maybe I'll find it pretty easy to learn the language (in school)! |
The problem in Chinese is that there are no letters. When you learn Russian or Greek, you learn the alphabet first - in Chinese you learn the sounds of pinyin (the way Chinese is written with western alphabet), the types of tildes, and then you begin learning words and basic structures. Each word has its own symbol (I don't remember the name in Chinese for those symbols).
I don't know yet about the systems that were used in the creation of the symbols. I just know that one of the sources is visual - they represented the word 'sun' as a circle with a dot in the middle before, but now it's evolved into a symbol that has two squares, one on top of another (or a long vertical rectangle that is divided by a horizontal line in the middle). Perhaps there is an easier way to know what a symbol means without having to memorise its meaning first, but, so far, it's only memorisation of words in my class. Hehe.
Perhaps someone who speaks Chinese can tell us? |
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*Shadow*
Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 2250 Location: Florida
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Posted: Mon, 22-Oct-2007 0:27 Post subject: |
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Russian, Ukrainian, English, and most of German _________________ ♥ Bessonova, Kondakova, Dmitrieva, Rizatdinova ♥ |
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Jonathan
Joined: 26 Oct 2003 Posts: 2205 Location: Paris
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Posted: Mon, 22-Oct-2007 12:00 Post subject: |
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I speak English (although some people disagree with that!) and I have studied French since I was 11 and still study at University level. I lived in France last year so am fairly fluent. I also study Spanish and did do Italian (although its been replaced in my brain with Spanish ) I'm also learning Russian and went to Moscow for 1 month to study in a language institute during the summer (I can't say I studied much, I was doing other things but it was a great experience ). _________________ Jon |
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