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IRINA VINER'S DISCIPLINARY HEARINGS!!!!
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FaerieDevilish



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PostPosted: Tue, 20-May-2008 16:01    Post subject: Reply with quote

Herbie wrote:
The case about judges from Patras has nothing to do with Deriugina or Viner. Those judges are judges from Azerbaijan, Israel etc who received yellow cards for arranging scores in Patras.
However, for what Irina Deriugina received her sanctions and why Irina Viner will have her disciplinary commission remains a secret

Thanks for clarifying, Herbie Very Happy
I hope we get to know at least the outcome soon...
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PostPosted: Thu, 22-May-2008 0:04    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the news!
Let's see what will happen.
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PostPosted: Thu, 22-May-2008 16:18    Post subject: Reply with quote

But there will also a disciplinary proceeding for Egle Abruzzini: someone know something more ??? She is not allowed to participate to any international event any more!!!! Is it true????
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PostPosted: Thu, 22-May-2008 17:19    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But there will also a disciplinary proceeding for Egle Abruzzini: sameone know something more ??? She is not allowed to partecipate to any international event any more!!!! Is it true????


I hope so!!!! It should has been done long time ago.
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PostPosted: Thu, 22-May-2008 22:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing on the stupid official website. On Wall Bash
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cuckoo for rhythmic



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PostPosted: Fri, 23-May-2008 0:53    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bounce Happy days ahead Bounce Very Happy Smile Laughing Laughing Laughing Bounce


unless........they get away with all of it with a slap on the wrist and a "don't do it again" note......

...still one can only hope.......
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PostPosted: Fri, 23-May-2008 12:28    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please, please, let us get rid of her (and Deriugina too...) Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 23-May-2008 12:31    Post subject: Reply with quote

FaerieDevilish wrote:
Nothing on the stupid official website. On Wall Bash


There's usually nothing on it anyway...
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PostPosted: Fri, 23-May-2008 14:23    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gergely wrote:
Please, please, let us get rid of her (and Deriugina too...) Smile



I agree, Gergely! Part of me wishes they would get rid of them all and start completely fresh. A new start.
Or I hope that they at least figure out some way to decrease the influence that these people have over the sport. Make it more of a democracy and less of a dictatorship, where one person doesn't have control over everything that happens on and off the carpet.
Maybe we're on our way to this point. If so, I will send Bruno Grandi flowers for FINALLY doing something about this mess. Very Happy

I am excitedly awaiting the Summer Olympics. What kind of effects will these disciplinary hearings/bans have on the AA results or the gymnasts' psyches? I'm intrigued!!
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PostPosted: Fri, 23-May-2008 14:36    Post subject: Reply with quote

Waw! Just I read this topic now (during a flight connection).
So amazing news to read! Shocked Egle also? Is this maybe the reason she has not been present at any FIG events this spring??? This would speak volumes for the clearing process underway.
Bruno has my respect...he shows the leadership now (that he hinted of during the RAI interview after Patras). Ok, let's see how goes now... -T
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PostPosted: Fri, 23-May-2008 20:23    Post subject: Reply with quote

As Gergely, let get some hope! I do not think that it was an easy work for Grandi to collect evidences and serious proofs as the cheating is so well implanted in the higher levels as a "normal" system. To get all these cheaters, I think that it takes a patient meticulous work that it could not be done in one day.
Lets hope!
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PostPosted: Fri, 23-May-2008 23:07    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't wait to see if Viner shows her face in EC2008!
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PostPosted: Sat, 24-May-2008 11:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know, maybe Viner can't be called the most fair judge
but I love her attitude toward her gymnasts: -she supported Kostina during OG in Barcelona,
- none of her gymnasts is lost ( Kabaeva is deputy, Batyrshina is tv host, Barsukova performed well in show and now she is pregnant, Putintseva is happily married to Viner's car driver, Ira Chaschina has apartment and her book published, Utiasheva (imagine who would care so much about girl with broken legs?!! - I always think about girls from artistic gymnastic- no one knows where they are) is tv-host and performs in shows and ballet)

but look-Skaldina coaches in Russia
Timoshenko is in Germany
Yerofeeva....
We have only 2 gymnasts in Ukraine of high level
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PostPosted: Sat, 24-May-2008 12:44    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alisas wrote:
You know, maybe Viner can't be called the most fair judge
but I love her attitude toward her gymnasts: -she supported Kostina during OG in Barcelona,
- none of her gymnasts is lost ( Kabaeva is deputy, Batyrshina is tv host, Barsukova performed well in show and now she is pregnant, Putintseva is happily married to Viner's car driver, Ira Chaschina has apartment and her book published, Utiasheva (imagine who would care so much about girl with broken legs?!! - I always think about girls from artistic gymnastic- no one knows where they are) is tv-host and performs in shows and ballet)

but look-Skaldina coaches in Russia
Timoshenko is in Germany
Yerofeeva....
We have only 2 gymnasts in Ukraine of high level


It is easy to care for your own athletes....my problem with her is that in order to promote her athletes she has stepped on the backs of so many others......
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PostPosted: Sat, 24-May-2008 15:23    Post subject: Reply with quote

singlo wrote:
Cool Hope there will be justice in this sport. at last...then I will change my mind about FIG.

Hi Sing, your words echo same how I feel just now.
Today I removed the perception of FIG statement (of 8th May) that was running on my page. -T
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