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IRINA VINER'S DISCIPLINARY HEARINGS!!!!
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Belosnegka



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PostPosted: Mon, 30-Jun-2008 17:39    Post subject: Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Mon, 30-Jun-2008 20:29    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jonathan wrote:
What an outrage...


a real shame yes
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PostPosted: Mon, 30-Jun-2008 21:00    Post subject: Reply with quote

so i got a question..was she disciplined for making comments about the judging on the grounds the she is on the technical committee....or simply becuz she didn't agree with the judging.

I don't understand how u can suspend two coaches for voicing their opinions. So i guess it was a violation of their..uhh i dunno "technical committee oath". Can someone please clear this up/?
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PostPosted: Mon, 30-Jun-2008 22:50    Post subject: Reply with quote

officially, she was disciplined for her word after the victory of Anna Bessonova at the AA of Patras, where she denounced the "complacency" of the judges for Anna

officially...
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PostPosted: Tue, 1-Jul-2008 1:51    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it was expected since it became public that it came down to lack of diplomacy.
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caprice



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PostPosted: Tue, 1-Jul-2008 13:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmmmmmmmm,like lost in translation? I don´t get it! She just walks off free,like nothing ever happened? blerb! seriously,I think we deserve an explication! Now what happens?
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PostPosted: Tue, 1-Jul-2008 16:36    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leaving the shock and all aside...

I'm beginning to wonder who brought this up in FIG. According to the Statute, anyone pretty much who has participation in it (including some judges) can bring up cases.

Also, I think that the legal possibility of Ukraine being benefitted from this outcome exists. It sounds weird, I know, but... 1)if they have a superb lawyer, which I am sure they do; and 2)if accusations against Viner are similar against Deriugina's (which we can't know with certainty because of the lovely transparency of FIG), then, when Deriugina's case reaches the CAS (because I am quite sure it will), they can present Viner's case as a precedent for the resolution of the Tribunal on at least one of the points of the accusations against Deriugina. Maybe this will not give her full freedom, but at least there could be a reduction in the sanction.

It is worth reminding, too, that international law is based on precedents.

Hoping for similarity in the cases is a lot, I guess, but the possibility exists.
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CoCoNuTsiopatHic



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PostPosted: Mon, 21-Jul-2008 0:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.fig-gymnastics.com/index2.jsp?menu=disrg

I just went to the FIG website and in the place on the RG page where the posted the news about the outcome of Viner's hearing they placed a picture of her, and can I just say that she looked like a total mess in that photo?! She looks like she just woke up after having slept on her hair all wrong but let the FIG take her photo, anyway. Someone should've offered the woman a brush.
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PostPosted: Mon, 21-Jul-2008 0:59    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's been there for a while, no?
I remember 'cause I was asking my mum how old she though Deriugina is, and she was surprised when I told her Laughing
That woman is overwhelmingly attractive.

Anyhow, I just noticed that Viner is *also* wearing the 'Kabaeva' lipstick!!!! Shocked
Maybe she gave her the tip Laughing

But yeah. I think that, for FIG pictures, they're quite bad. I guess Deriugina gets the extra for being attractive, haha.
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PostPosted: Mon, 21-Jul-2008 1:29    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha, yeah I'm sure it's been there for a while, but I just now went over there and saw it. I only went to the website to see if they had results from Astana up yet.
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PostPosted: Mon, 21-Jul-2008 12:07    Post subject: Reply with quote

CoCoNuTsiopatHic wrote:
Haha, yeah I'm sure it's been there for a while, but I just now went over there and saw it. I only went to the website to see if they had results from Astana up yet.


CoCoNuT...
Could you, please, post your own photo and we will discuss it with a great pleasure Smile)))
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PostPosted: Mon, 21-Jul-2008 18:57    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have seen it and can affirm I don't have anything to discuss about it. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon, 21-Jul-2008 22:52    Post subject: Reply with quote

She looks great!!!

Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue, 22-Jul-2008 15:16    Post subject: Reply with quote

Belosnegka wrote:
She looks great!!!

Very Happy

Who? Aliya Yussupova? - Not bad Smile)))
Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue, 22-Jul-2008 16:32    Post subject: Reply with quote

ivan wrote:
Belosnegka wrote:
She looks great!!!

Very Happy

Who? Aliya Yussupova? - Not bad Smile)))
Very Happy


Yussupova is nice yes Very Happy
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