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2009-2012 COP Jumps and leaps
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Sery



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PostPosted: Sun, 10-May-2009 6:13    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course, judges can see the difference between loss of balance with hand support and landing with hand support.
The first one can be deducted in 050 or 070 depending on an error. The second one is just a composition and I wouldn't give any deduction and we should give a credit to a body movement difficulty.
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PostPosted: Wed, 17-Jun-2009 5:01    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can I do the leap n. 13 E in a ring position (with trunk forward)?

and the jete en tournant with trunk forward with ring and without have the same form ?

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PostPosted: Wed, 17-Jun-2009 8:18    Post subject: Reply with quote

are you sure you want to have a trunk forward?? maybe backwards?
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PostPosted: Wed, 17-Jun-2009 14:29    Post subject: Reply with quote

Invisible Hedgehog wrote:
are you sure you want to have a trunk forward?? maybe backwards?


yes, sure! I'm sorry... Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 19-Jun-2009 4:24    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Can I do the leap n. 13 E in a ring position (with trunk BACKWARDS )?

and the jete en tournant with trunk BACKWARDS with ring and without have the same form ?

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PostPosted: Sat, 20-Jun-2009 20:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carol_Gr wrote:
Carol_Gr wrote:
Can I do the leap n. 13 E in a ring position (with trunk BACKWARDS )?

and the jete en tournant with trunk BACKWARDS with ring and without have the same form ?

Question

thanks!


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I'm still not clear on whether they allow leaps with backbends and rings anymore. It's not in the table of elements, but the code says that a backbend can be used with a ring. It would add .5 to the base.

Also, a jete leap is considered a different leap than a regular leap.
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PostPosted: Sat, 20-Jun-2009 22:29    Post subject: Reply with quote

cidlover wrote:
Carol_Gr wrote:
Carol_Gr wrote:
Can I do the leap n. 13 E in a ring position (with trunk BACKWARDS )?

and the jete en tournant with trunk BACKWARDS with ring and without have the same form ?

Question

thanks!


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I'm still not clear on whether they allow leaps with backbends and rings anymore. It's not in the table of elements, but the code says that a backbend can be used with a ring. It would add .5 to the base.

Also, a jete leap is considered a different leap than a regular leap.


A Leap with Backbend & Ring adds 0.4 to the base, not 0.5.
Backbend is 0.3 on its own, and Ring is 0.2 on its own - Both together are 0.4
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PostPosted: Wed, 24-Jun-2009 14:16    Post subject: Reply with quote

so its should be still possible.. thanks for answer
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Sery



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PostPosted: Wed, 24-Jun-2009 17:08    Post subject: Reply with quote

AnnaBessonovaNumber1Fan wrote:
cidlover wrote:
Carol_Gr wrote:
Carol_Gr wrote:
Can I do the leap n. 13 E in a ring position (with trunk BACKWARDS )?

and the jete en tournant with trunk BACKWARDS with ring and without have the same form ?

Question

thanks!


no one? Sad


I'm still not clear on whether they allow leaps with backbends and rings anymore. It's not in the table of elements, but the code says that a backbend can be used with a ring. It would add .5 to the base.

Also, a jete leap is considered a different leap than a regular leap.


A Leap with Backbend & Ring adds 0.4 to the base, not 0.5.
Backbend is 0.3 on its own, and Ring is 0.2 on its own - Both together are 0.4


where did you get the information - ring+backbend will be 0.40?!

The Code states: L’exécution d’une difficulté avec une amplitude plus grande que la norme ne change pas la valeur prévue pour cette difficulté.

I.e. you can do a base "enjambee" or "jete en tournant" with backbend, and add the rign, but the value is the same.
And the shape still remains the same.
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PostPosted: Thu, 25-Jun-2009 0:02    Post subject: Reply with quote

So adding a ring to a leap with backbend is now considered exceptional amphlitude. hm... that's interesting.
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PostPosted: Thu, 25-Jun-2009 3:13    Post subject: Reply with quote

So Sery, and Rizenson in this videos, what must she asking in this routine on 0:18?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnMuZmtgD6o
n. 2 F but with backbend (without change of value?)
and on 0:23 - n. 1 E ; 1:19 - n13 D only?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyIafRUYTqw

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PostPosted: Fri, 26-Jun-2009 6:00    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carol_Gr wrote:
1:19 - n13 D only?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyIafRUYTqw


13E (Stag leap with backbend of the trunk).
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PostPosted: Fri, 22-Apr-2011 10:24    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is this leap? I guess it's fouette split leap? Or what? Stupid It looks beautiful! I have been trying to find out what is it almost during a week! Mr. Green

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Video:
(1:01-1:03)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYRbkPOuxWo

I have seen this leap a few times - Staniouta did it in Requiem for a dream ribbon routine and Bessonova did the ring version of this leap in Clubs 2003-2004.
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PostPosted: Fri, 22-Apr-2011 11:57    Post subject: Reply with quote

Christina wrote:
What is this leap? I guess it's fouette split leap? Or what? Stupid It looks beautiful! I have been trying to find out what is it almost during a week! Mr. Green

Girls, please, heeeelp! Laughing



I think it's the 18D jump, the fouetté with grand écart. Smile


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PostPosted: Fri, 22-Apr-2011 12:40    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kalinka, many thanks for replying!! Kiss Cheek
Yes, it's what I mean, but it seems 5E? Look, please, is it L3305?

http://cop2005.nucurve.com/ElementsLeap.html
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