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Sery
Joined: 26 Oct 2003 Posts: 497
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Posted: Mon, 26-Jan-2009 11:59 Post subject: |
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Attitude wrote: | what counts as rotation for D2 without throw:
illusion?
penche rotation?
tonneau?
front split with side roll on the floor?
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my personal opinion:
illusion - flexibility
penche rotation - flexibility and rotation
tonnueau - flexibility
front (or back) split roll on the floor - fllexibility _________________ Go Alina, you are the Olympic Champion 2008!!! |
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Marie
Joined: 26 Oct 2003 Posts: 1293
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Posted: Tue, 27-Jan-2009 20:53 Post subject: |
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Tahnee wrote: | But it has always said "general criteria for all groups of flexibilities". Although there were initially the 6.2.4 and 6.2.6. exceptions, this has now been changed, and that 0.2 for adding rotation is still under general criteria - there is nothing that says specifically ONLY 6.2.4 and 6.2.6 may use this bonus.
It is all quite unclear though still... |
The French errata seems to change this, from "Critères généraux pour tous les groupes de souplesses" to "Critères généraux pour les difficultés concernées". It is no longer general criteria for all groups, but criteria for a few specific difficulties (as shown in the tables).
I also agree with what has been written a couple of times before: When looking at "body in space", we should look at the basic characteristics of the element, and choose just one of the four body movement groups (exception only for a few leaps, for the back bend pivot, and perhaps penché pivot).
I.e. a leap with large back bend of the trunk clearly belongs to the group of leap elements, even though it also requires some flexibility.
A pivot difficulty clearly belongs to the group of pivot elements, even though it may require a large amount of flexibility as well as a fixed position on relevé. |
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pulsatilla
Joined: 06 Aug 2007 Posts: 26
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Posted: Tue, 3-Mar-2009 12:19 Post subject: |
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I am not sure but probably she added a slow turn to difficulty 20E as written on the Code on page 59.
What I can't understand is that the third difficulty in Kusherova's routine in another difficulty with slow turn. I thought it wasn't allowed to perform more that one difficulty with slow turn out of three.
Am I wrong? _________________ PULSATILLA |
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dsafilipe
Joined: 29 Jun 2007 Posts: 392 Location: Foz do Iguaçu - Brazil
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Posted: Mon, 20-Apr-2009 0:47 Post subject: |
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I don't know if somebody has already aske this... But isn't it forbbiden to make a combinations of the same element more than 3 times? So why Sessina makes '4' illusions....? _________________ (...) e nos teus olhos eu vejo o susto e o grão de uma lágrima sobre a qual me concentro (...)
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Eulucil
Joined: 11 Sep 2008 Posts: 524 Location: Spain
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Posted: Mon, 20-Apr-2009 13:53 Post subject: |
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dsafilipe wrote: | I don't know if somebody has already aske this... But isn't it forbbiden to make a combinations of the same element more than 3 times? So why Sessina makes '4' illusions....? |
Because 4 illusions are just one element. Like a pivot with 4 rotations. Combinations of three elements are only allowed in jumps and pivots (for example, you couldn't perform a combination of three backscale pivots) |
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Eulucil
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Posted: Mon, 20-Apr-2009 13:55 Post subject: |
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I thought that slow turn had to be performed on the "hardest" part of the difficulty. And I don't know why I thought that because I didn't read it anywhere |
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Tashik
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Posted: Tue, 21-Apr-2009 8:21 Post subject: |
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Eulucil wrote: |
I thought that slow turn had to be performed on the "hardest" part of the difficulty. And I don't know why I thought that because I didn't read it anywhere |
Flexibility 21 G is the flexibility "With ½ turn in the walkover position". And without slow turn it is an E. So to do a slow turn on the "easiest" part of the flexibility should not give any credit in my option also... |
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Andrea
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Tahnee RSG.net Moderator
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 3296 Location: Perth, Australia
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Posted: Fri, 15-May-2009 23:36 Post subject: Re: Points for back exercises |
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None of these are these difficulties in the COP.
However, if you add a rotation before "the leaf", it is a C value flexibility. _________________ http://www.youtube.com/Tahnee2612 |
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Eli4ka
Joined: 11 Jan 2007 Posts: 187 Location: Kazahstan
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cidlover
Joined: 07 Dec 2008 Posts: 862 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat, 6-Jun-2009 1:42 Post subject: |
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What are the Utyasheva and Garaeva difficulties? _________________ I have a gymnastics blog again. Here we go. toomanyamanars.blogspot.com |
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CoCoNuTsiopatHic
Joined: 14 Apr 2006 Posts: 819
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Posted: Sat, 6-Jun-2009 21:54 Post subject: |
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cidlover wrote: | What are the Utyasheva and Garaeva difficulties? |
A Utyasheva is a Needle Scale into a Back Scale, and a Garayeva is a Penchee with a turn of the trunk into a Back Scale Turn. _________________ *Elegance is an attitude.* |
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Invisible Hedgehog
Joined: 27 Oct 2003 Posts: 1718 Location: Ukraine, Kyiv
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Posted: Wed, 10-Jun-2009 19:43 Post subject: |
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Tashik wrote: | Eulucil wrote: |
I thought that slow turn had to be performed on the "hardest" part of the difficulty. And I don't know why I thought that because I didn't read it anywhere |
Flexibility 21 G is the flexibility "With ½ turn in the walkover position". And without slow turn it is an E. So to do a slow turn on the "easiest" part of the flexibility should not give any credit in my option also... |
who determines the easiest and the most difficult parts of the element? Since it is not written anywhere, and it also IS NOT written in which part it should be done (during the whole element, in the first part, in the second part) - I don't think it is NOT allowed.
Maksymenko is doing an inverse Utyasheva which is also allowed by the COP (because it is written OR VICE VERSA).
In Moscow in the form the tourlents were not written because we were not sure whether we will use them and we wanted to see the reaction _________________ Ridentem dicere verum quid vetat
check - http://www.ukraine-rg.com ! |
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dsafilipe
Joined: 29 Jun 2007 Posts: 392 Location: Foz do Iguaçu - Brazil
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Posted: Sat, 13-Jun-2009 4:51 Post subject: |
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The utyasheva element was firstly done by Utyasheva? This is the reason of using her name to refer to this element? _________________ (...) e nos teus olhos eu vejo o susto e o grão de uma lágrima sobre a qual me concentro (...)
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CoCoNuTsiopatHic
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Posted: Sun, 14-Jun-2009 21:41 Post subject: |
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It was actually done by Batyrchina first, I think. I don't know why it's called a Utyasheva. _________________ *Elegance is an attitude.* |
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