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2009-2012 COP Pivots
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PostPosted: Fri, 25-Dec-2009 13:53    Post subject: Reply with quote

nergym77 wrote:
How much would be single,single,double fouette(in passe) according the new COP? Thanks.


I'm fairly sure it would be BBD = 0.80.
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PostPosted: Wed, 6-Jan-2010 20:45    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have understand how you should count the pivots value after the changes in COP, but the pivot from cosack up to stretch position is worth 0,60 if you do 360° and if I have understand it right 720° is worth 1,2? and 1080° 1,8? it sounds very high, doesn't it?
If someone know, please answer Smile
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PostPosted: Sun, 10-Jan-2010 4:21    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is pivot in ring position with help same shape as pivot in split position with help.Can they be put in the same routine?Thanks.
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PostPosted: Thu, 14-Jan-2010 1:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

nergym77 wrote:
Is pivot in ring position with help same shape as pivot in split position with help.Can they be put in the same routine?Thanks.


these are different shapes therefore you can do both.
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PostPosted: Wed, 10-Feb-2010 23:41    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there!

This counting-the-number-of-rotations-in-each-position thing, IMO, is a bit impracticable, unworkable. Most of the gymnasts change their position when they feel they have to, not when they have completed any number of rotations.

Anyway, there goes my question:

What happens when a gymnast performs more of the written rotations in the "easier" position during a pivot, but she keeps performing the adequate total number of rotations?

For instance, a gymnast writtes 3 Attitudes + 1 Passé. That is, 1.1 (o.9+o.1+o.1).
But she performs 1 Attitude + passés.

What is the value that judges give?

-1 Attitude + 0.1 + 1passé = o.5? (this doesn't sound that bad now that I'm writting it)

-The normal value?

-1 attitude + 0.1 + 3 passés= 0.7?

Thanks! Smile
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PostPosted: Thu, 11-Feb-2010 1:23    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can only get a maximum of what's written on your sheet - if you do a triple passe, but it's only written as a single on your sheet, you will only get the 0.1. Therefore, in your example, the gymnast would get 0.5 (0.3 +0.1 + 0.1).
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PostPosted: Fri, 12-Feb-2010 0:59    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tahnee wrote:
You can only get a maximum of what's written on your sheet - if you do a triple passe, but it's only written as a single on your sheet, you will only get the 0.1. Therefore, in your example, the gymnast would get 0.5 (0.3 +0.1 + 0.1).


Thanks!! This sounds quite logical Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 22-Feb-2010 3:02    Post subject: Reply with quote

Question...how do you write multiple pivots now with the new code..let's say double attitude,triple cosack? Thanks.
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PostPosted: Mon, 22-Feb-2010 6:18    Post subject: Reply with quote

nergym77 wrote:
Question...how do you write multiple pivots now with the new code..let's say double attitude,triple cosack? Thanks.


You write the symbols and letter values for both pivots.
So (attitude pivot symbol) F (cossack pivot symbol) F
And 1.3 in the space above the symbols.

By the way, I would like to see someone do that combination!
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PostPosted: Thu, 25-Feb-2010 21:20    Post subject: Reply with quote

I´m not completely sure that´s the exact combination, but I think Frida Parnas from Norway does it.

Tahnee wrote:
nergym77 wrote:
Question...how do you write multiple pivots now with the new code..let's say double attitude,triple cosack? Thanks.


You write the symbols and letter values for both pivots.
So (attitude pivot symbol) F (cossack pivot symbol) F
And 1.3 in the space above the symbols.

By the way, I would like to see someone do that combination!
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PostPosted: Tue, 9-Mar-2010 2:41    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q9PeZd7nHE

What is the value of the pivot at 1:13 and how do you write it?
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PostPosted: Thu, 11-Mar-2010 22:32    Post subject: Reply with quote

uscoach wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q9PeZd7nHE

What is the value of the pivot at 1:13 and how do you write it?


I would say that she writes CCCCCCCCC = 2,7.
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PostPosted: Tue, 23-Mar-2010 10:21    Post subject: Reply with quote

is it allowed to do 2 passee fouettee pivots in one routine

First bbb and second dd?

I think it is not allowed, but I would be glad to hear other opinions about that
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PostPosted: Tue, 23-Mar-2010 11:55    Post subject: Reply with quote

Attitude wrote:
is it allowed to do 2 passee fouettee pivots in one routine

First bbb and second dd?

I think it is not allowed, but I would be glad to hear other opinions about that


No, you can only do 1 passe fouette pivot per routine, no matter what the number of rotations. You can however use a passe fouette and horizontal fouette.
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PostPosted: Wed, 28-Apr-2010 20:57    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi!

Do you think that gymnast must keep performing penchée pivot in relevé? For instance, Kanaeva's brand pivot or Staniouta's pivot. They never perform it in relevé but, with her D1 values, as a matter of fact, judges always count them. What do you think?
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