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ybalka_
Joined: 10 Oct 2004 Posts: 1538
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Posted: Tue, 1-May-2012 14:23 Post subject: |
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Storm wrote: | Dalit an injury doesn't make you look like you gave up. Your MIND attitude does. if it were her injury she would have been like that the entire routine. Not just after her hoop flew away.
you are now diverting the attention from the hot uncomfortable spots as usual, but the fact we are mostly agreeing on a subject you don't like doesn't make it unfair, or untrue.
A bit of objective honesty won't kill you, for once.
Plus, what's with the video comparison? A drop is a flaw in a routine, which a mature gymnast learn to move on about in order not to compromise the entirety of the routine. Being a passionate explosive gymnasts is not a synonym of hyper sensitive and unable to control and master her own emotions.
I can bring on many examples of gymnasts that even with mistakes were strong enough to go on WELL and showing the same incredible expressivity. THIS is admirable. If she cared for her performance so much as you said, she should be willing to give 200% of herself in what's left of her routine.
Anyway, I am done trying to explain the point. Let's just hope she will recover in her body and mind to regain that spirit that almost led her to the podium of the last WC. |
I so agree, i wrote a testament in the previos page saying exactly the same as you but it was absolutely useless. When people is stuck in their own ideal conception of something (kodakova in this case) it is impossible to make them understand.
It seems to me that certain people in this forum always find some reason to excuse kondakova for her mistakes. She is never the one to blame.
Sometimes they are right, and sometimes their excuses sound like a joke. |
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ybalka_
Joined: 10 Oct 2004 Posts: 1538
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Posted: Tue, 1-May-2012 14:40 Post subject: |
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Well, but not everything turns around kondakova so I must give my biggest congratulations to Trofimova's medal!! She's a great gymnast, I hope this gives her strength for the next months!
It's a shame we won't see her in the EC |
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AleksandraFan
Joined: 31 May 2011 Posts: 1910 Location: Canada
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Posted: Tue, 1-May-2012 16:39 Post subject: |
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ybalka_ wrote: | Well, but not everything turns around kondakova so I must give my biggest congratulations to Trofimova's medal!! She's a great gymnast, I hope this gives her strength for the next months!
It's a shame we won't see her in the EC |
ULY (stupid iPad) not at the EC? How come? _________________ My youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/xxJodelleFerlandxx?feature=mhee
I ♥ Sasha Merkulova!
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ybalka_
Joined: 10 Oct 2004 Posts: 1538
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Posted: Tue, 1-May-2012 16:49 Post subject: |
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AleksandraFan wrote: | ybalka_ wrote: | Well, but not everything turns around kondakova so I must give my biggest congratulations to Trofimova's medal!! She's a great gymnast, I hope this gives her strength for the next months!
It's a shame we won't see her in the EC |
Ugly not at the EC? How come? |
"ugly" That made me laugh
UZB is not considered Europe in EC terms, nor is Kazakistan (no Alyabyeva therefore).
This is a totally random rule because what are Azerbayan or Israel doing in a EC? It is quite unfair. |
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AleksandraFan
Joined: 31 May 2011 Posts: 1910 Location: Canada
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Posted: Tue, 1-May-2012 17:02 Post subject: |
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ybalka_ wrote: | AleksandraFan wrote: | ybalka_ wrote: | Well, but not everything turns around kondakova so I must give my biggest congratulations to Trofimova's medal!! She's a great gymnast, I hope this gives her strength for the next months!
It's a shame we won't see her in the EC |
Uly not at the EC? How come? |
"ugly" That made me laugh
UZB is not considered Europe in EC terms, nor is Kazakistan (no Alyabyeva therefore).
This is a totally random rule because what are Azerbayan or Israel doing in a EC? It is quite unfair. |
Gah, sorry, I was on my iPad and clearly, it did not understand that ULY is a name. I'm going to go fix that -_- _________________ My youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/xxJodelleFerlandxx?feature=mhee
I ♥ Sasha Merkulova! |
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Hoops and Grand Fouettes
Joined: 10 May 2011 Posts: 1847 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue, 1-May-2012 19:31 Post subject: |
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ybalka_ wrote: | AleksandraFan wrote: | ybalka_ wrote: | Well, but not everything turns around kondakova so I must give my biggest congratulations to Trofimova's medal!! She's a great gymnast, I hope this gives her strength for the next months!
It's a shame we won't see her in the EC |
Ugly not at the EC? How come? |
"ugly" That made me laugh
UZB is not considered Europe in EC terms, nor is Kazakistan (no Alyabyeva therefore).
This is a totally random rule because what are Azerbayan or Israel doing in a EC? It is quite unfair. |
Kazakhstan has as much of a right as Azerbaijan to compete in the EC. _________________ My YouTube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/MarchingBalletDancer
My Tumblr: http://czarinakanaeva.tumblr.com/ |
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Vana
Joined: 21 Sep 2011 Posts: 434 Location: Rio de Janeiro
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Posted: Tue, 1-May-2012 20:38 Post subject: |
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Storm wrote: | Dalit an injury doesn't make you look like you gave up. Your MIND attitude does. if it were her injury she would have been like that the entire routine. Not just after her hoop flew away. |
Totally agree! I think she was strange since the very begining of the routine not only after the drop. |
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eglantine
Joined: 26 Jul 2008 Posts: 360
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Posted: Wed, 2-May-2012 10:51 Post subject: |
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ybalka_ wrote: | ivan wrote: | ybalka_ wrote: | eglantine wrote: | ybalka_ wrote: | Nele Põldvere wrote: | What's going on with Daria K's back scales?! |
why you ask? she's always had awful backscales, everything related to back elements are Kondi weakness, well, and jumps, pivots, balances everything is weak in her except strength and speed.
I refuse to believe in this scores. Kanaeva's missing and suddenly she becomes the 29.xxx girl of the competition |
Everything U said is not correct but you can continue to think so
DariaK has everything and the shoulders pain also ;( |
Can you show me a proper backscale from Dasha K please? a good jump? a good pivot? I wanna know why I'm not correct. I am amazed how can you believe that other's people opinion is not correct but it is correct just what you think I know about her shoulder pain I wish her the best and a soon recovery.
At some point you're giving me the reason, a shoulder injury and still 29 scores? Two options come to my mind: her shoulder is not that painful anymore or the scores are biased. I tend to believe the second one |
Eglantine is correct and you not ...Sorry to say this.
1. Probably you never done any sport being injured and playing after taking some pain breakers - pills, injections etc.
2. There no need to show you the correct elements because you have no idea what they should look like.
Or...the FIG judges should be fired ...can you feel...the difference ?
3. Nothing personal - just an opinion
Cheers and take care |
Sorry I don't understand you. |
Of course, you CAN NOT but I can |
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ybalka_
Joined: 10 Oct 2004 Posts: 1538
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Posted: Wed, 2-May-2012 14:27 Post subject: |
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eglantine wrote: |
Of course, you CAN NOT but I can |
Because you and ivan are the same person |
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Juliana
Joined: 12 May 2006 Posts: 715
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Posted: Wed, 2-May-2012 15:27 Post subject: |
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ybalka_ wrote: | eglantine wrote: |
Of course, you CAN NOT but I can |
Because you and ivan are the same person |
hm... this " " explains everything... _________________ the sixth sense |
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LudaFenka
Joined: 29 Dec 2010 Posts: 806
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Posted: Wed, 2-May-2012 16:41 Post subject: |
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Vana wrote: | Storm wrote: | Dalit an injury doesn't make you look like you gave up. Your MIND attitude does. if it were her injury she would have been like that the entire routine. Not just after her hoop flew away. |
Totally agree! I think she was strange since the very begining of the routine not only after the drop. |
It is so pretentious and condescending, what you are saying. Have you ever had an injury like she has? I mean, I haven't either, but I have bad ankles. And it's happened to me to cry just going down the stairs because of pain in my ankle. I would be able to walk normally and then stairs would make me cry... Never mind performing world class routines. No, it's not "all in your mind." When you are in pain and you can't move like you are used to, you end up giving up on some very simple movements. And, it may not hurt ALL THE TIME but just some movements can actually become very difficult to do, depending on where the injury is....Or, you may feel it more when it's cold, or when you're tired, or God knows when... _________________ http://ludafenka-en.blogspot.com/
http://ludafenka-ru.blogspot.com/ |
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AleksandraFan
Joined: 31 May 2011 Posts: 1910 Location: Canada
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Posted: Wed, 2-May-2012 16:47 Post subject: |
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LudaFenka wrote: | Vana wrote: | Storm wrote: | Dalit an injury doesn't make you look like you gave up. Your MIND attitude does. if it were her injury she would have been like that the entire routine. Not just after her hoop flew away. |
Totally agree! I think she was strange since the very begining of the routine not only after the drop. |
It is so pretentious and condescending, what you are saying. Have you ever had an injury like she has? I mean, I haven't either, but I have bad ankles. And it's happened to me to cry just going down the stairs because of pain in my ankle. I would be able to walk normally and then stairs would make me cry... Never mind performing world class routines. No, it's not "all in your mind." When you are in pain and you can't move like you are used to, you end up giving up on some very simple movements. And, it may not hurt ALL THE TIME but just some movements can actually become very difficult to do, depending on where the injury is....Or, you may feel it more when it's cold, or when you're tired, or God knows when... |
I agree. It's completely impossible to say what put her in such a bad mood. Stress, pain; it could be anything. For all we know, a close family member could have died or be very sick, or she was just told that her shoulder may require surgery to fix, or who knows what. _________________ My youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/xxJodelleFerlandxx?feature=mhee
I ♥ Sasha Merkulova! |
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LudaFenka
Joined: 29 Dec 2010 Posts: 806
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Posted: Wed, 2-May-2012 19:59 Post subject: |
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AleksandraFan wrote: | LudaFenka wrote: | Vana wrote: | Storm wrote: | Dalit an injury doesn't make you look like you gave up. Your MIND attitude does. if it were her injury she would have been like that the entire routine. Not just after her hoop flew away. |
Totally agree! I think she was strange since the very begining of the routine not only after the drop. |
It is so pretentious and condescending, what you are saying. Have you ever had an injury like she has? I mean, I haven't either, but I have bad ankles. And it's happened to me to cry just going down the stairs because of pain in my ankle. I would be able to walk normally and then stairs would make me cry... Never mind performing world class routines. No, it's not "all in your mind." When you are in pain and you can't move like you are used to, you end up giving up on some very simple movements. And, it may not hurt ALL THE TIME but just some movements can actually become very difficult to do, depending on where the injury is....Or, you may feel it more when it's cold, or when you're tired, or God knows when... |
I agree. It's completely impossible to say what put her in such a bad mood. Stress, pain; it could be anything. For all we know, a close family member could have died or be very sick, or she was just told that her shoulder may require surgery to fix, or who knows what. |
Or she may be just annoyed that now, in addition to everything else, she has to always pay attention to the shoulder. It may be uncomfortable to even put her leo on; that's not uncommon. _________________ http://ludafenka-en.blogspot.com/
http://ludafenka-ru.blogspot.com/ |
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ivan
Joined: 13 Apr 2004 Posts: 841 Location: Milky Way Galaxy
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Posted: Wed, 2-May-2012 22:50 Post subject: |
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ybalka_ wrote: | eglantine wrote: |
Of course, you CAN NOT but I can |
Because you and ivan are the same person |
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eglantine
Joined: 26 Jul 2008 Posts: 360
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Posted: Thu, 3-May-2012 6:05 Post subject: |
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ivan wrote: | ybalka_ wrote: | eglantine wrote: |
Of course, you CAN NOT but I can |
Because you and ivan are the same person |
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Ybalka_ or something similar
It is fully my opinion (which can not be true) that
Your comments are not only not competent
but tendentious and annoying at least for people who
knows the rhythmic gymnastics in details.
But it is out doubt that you do not like DariaK don't you?
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