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Corbeil-Essonnes International Tournament 2012
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graceful_sport



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PostPosted: Wed, 16-May-2012 18:13    Post subject: Reply with quote

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graceful_sport wrote:
AleksandraFan wrote:

I still disagree. But I suppose part of is it everyone is seeing what they want to see. If they're looking for mistakes, they will undoubtedly find them (not referring to Merkulova; to all gymnasts).

She is clubfooted. She can't pull the foot.


This is club footed: http://www.google.ca/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=club+footed&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&redir_esc=&ei=kdyzT_TGI46e8gTPst2FCQ

So I don't think we need to go to that extreme. Anyway, I showed my coach a video of Sasha that my music happened to be attached to, and the first thing she said was that she had beautiful point. I'm inclined to go with that opinion.

Ofcourse I'm exaggerating.
Have you ever heard about turnout? It's from ballet. Or the first foot position?
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PostPosted: Wed, 16-May-2012 18:25    Post subject: Reply with quote

graceful_sport wrote:
AleksandraFan wrote:
graceful_sport wrote:
AleksandraFan wrote:

I still disagree. But I suppose part of is it everyone is seeing what they want to see. If they're looking for mistakes, they will undoubtedly find them (not referring to Merkulova; to all gymnasts).

She is clubfooted. She can't pull the foot.


This is club footed: http://www.google.ca/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=club+footed&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&redir_esc=&ei=kdyzT_TGI46e8gTPst2FCQ

So I don't think we need to go to that extreme. Anyway, I showed my coach a video of Sasha that my music happened to be attached to, and the first thing she said was that she had beautiful point. I'm inclined to go with that opinion.

Ofcourse I'm exaggerating.
Have you ever heard about turnout? It's from ballet. Or the first foot position?


Yes, I took Ballet for years, and part of the reason I was accepted to train at the best club in my city was my 'beautiful feet'. So yes, I know what a turnout is, and I know about first position. I just think saying 'club foot' was going too far.
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graceful_sport



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PostPosted: Wed, 16-May-2012 18:40    Post subject: Reply with quote

AleksandraFan wrote:
graceful_sport wrote:
AleksandraFan wrote:
graceful_sport wrote:
AleksandraFan wrote:

I still disagree. But I suppose part of is it everyone is seeing what they want to see. If they're looking for mistakes, they will undoubtedly find them (not referring to Merkulova; to all gymnasts).

She is clubfooted. She can't pull the foot.


This is club footed: http://www.google.ca/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=club+footed&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&redir_esc=&ei=kdyzT_TGI46e8gTPst2FCQ

So I don't think we need to go to that extreme. Anyway, I showed my coach a video of Sasha that my music happened to be attached to, and the first thing she said was that she had beautiful point. I'm inclined to go with that opinion.

Ofcourse I'm exaggerating.
Have you ever heard about turnout? It's from ballet. Or the first foot position?


Yes, I took Ballet for years, and part of the reason I was accepted to train at the best club in my city was my 'beautiful feet'. So yes, I know what a turnout is, and I know about first position. I just think saying 'club foot' was going too far.

Wow! Shocked You took Ballet and you say Merkulova's feet are good. She hasn't turnout at all.
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PostPosted: Wed, 16-May-2012 19:01    Post subject: Reply with quote

graceful_sport wrote:
AleksandraFan wrote:
graceful_sport wrote:
AleksandraFan wrote:
graceful_sport wrote:
AleksandraFan wrote:

I still disagree. But I suppose part of is it everyone is seeing what they want to see. If they're looking for mistakes, they will undoubtedly find them (not referring to Merkulova; to all gymnasts).

She is clubfooted. She can't pull the foot.


This is club footed: http://www.google.ca/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=club+footed&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&redir_esc=&ei=kdyzT_TGI46e8gTPst2FCQ

So I don't think we need to go to that extreme. Anyway, I showed my coach a video of Sasha that my music happened to be attached to, and the first thing she said was that she had beautiful point. I'm inclined to go with that opinion.

Ofcourse I'm exaggerating.
Have you ever heard about turnout? It's from ballet. Or the first foot position?


Yes, I took Ballet for years, and part of the reason I was accepted to train at the best club in my city was my 'beautiful feet'. So yes, I know what a turnout is, and I know about first position. I just think saying 'club foot' was going too far.

Wow! Shocked You took Ballet and you say Merkulova's feet are good. She hasn't turnout at all.

Well, during the school year for three years, and I always hated it.

Never said her turnout is good. I said she's not club footed, and I've seen much much worse turnouts. My main point is that her feet are pointed. Frankly, I don't care much about turnout. At least her feet aren't turned in.

Off topic, but I guess figure skatin is the reason I have a turnout.... Spread eagles.

Sorry for grammar spelling mistakes, I'm typing on my phone.
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PostPosted: Wed, 16-May-2012 20:00    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can only imagine the comments when Kanaeva retires and Merkulova becomes nș 1 Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 16-May-2012 20:20    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kanaeva's legs are worse. Actually Merkulova has very good body, very high releve and clean lines. She's pushed ahead of her time, but she is very talented, no doubt.
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PostPosted: Wed, 16-May-2012 21:32    Post subject: Reply with quote

uscoach wrote:
Kanaeva's legs are worse. Actually Merkulova has very good body, very high releve and clean lines. She's pushed ahead of her time, but she is very talented, no doubt.


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PostPosted: Thu, 17-May-2012 5:14    Post subject: Reply with quote

uscoach wrote:
Kanaeva's legs are worse. Actually Merkulova has very good body, very high releve and clean lines. She's pushed ahead of her time, but she is very talented, no doubt.


http://rhytmic.borda.ru/?1-0-0-00000719-000-150-0

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PostPosted: Thu, 17-May-2012 12:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

So it's official!!
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PostPosted: Thu, 17-May-2012 18:01    Post subject: Reply with quote

ivan wrote:
uscoach wrote:
Kanaeva's legs are worse. Actually Merkulova has very good body, very high releve and clean lines. She's pushed ahead of her time, but she is very talented, no doubt.


http://rhytmic.borda.ru/?1-0-0-00000719-000-150-0

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Did someone on this Russian forum actually compare Sasha to rotten tomatoes? Shocked Watching Or is my Russian just bad...? (and I should probably feel bad for laughing outright at first...)

Anyways, I don't think Sasha has very good lines, and she does have a releve that's great but it's not always consistent unfortunately...but she IS on her way to that point since she's been on the path of improvement, so yeah, being pushed ahead of her time...and that's not good for anyone's development.
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PostPosted: Thu, 17-May-2012 18:16    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't imagine the pressure she's under. It's not fair to be so cruel to her Sad

I can't read russian very well, and I'm glad.
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PostPosted: Thu, 17-May-2012 22:10    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always wondered how good she really thinks she is.

AleksandraFan- I don't think anyone really 'hates' her. It's just the blatant lying (which goes for a lot of the Russians, unfortunately) on her behalf.

Also, I think her smile can be obnoxious at times but she seems to have toned that down. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu, 17-May-2012 22:22    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pretty sure that Viner didn't obligate Merkulova to go to the EC. She is her favourite gymnast right now, so if Merkulova was unhappy about it, I'm sure she would have picked Dmitrieva. If she's going to the EC is because she wants it.
It is a different situation now. For instance, in Kabaeva's era, she didn't had any choice because at the time she was the number one. But in this case, Merkulova is no. 4! Why isn't Dmitrieva at her place? Because she has a problem with her clubs routine? Well, Merkulova has a problem with pretty much all her routines, she still needs to improve A LOT.
No one in this forum is bashing her. We are only stating our opinion saying she is not ready yet, which is an absolute truth!

(I'm sorry if my English is not clear Quiet )
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PostPosted: Thu, 17-May-2012 22:33    Post subject: Reply with quote

^Your English almost flawless. If only my Portuguese were the same. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu, 17-May-2012 22:33    Post subject: Reply with quote

psrgomes08 wrote:
I'm pretty sure that Viner didn't obligate Merkulova to go to the EC. She is her favourite gymnast right now, so if Merkulova was unhappy about it, I'm sure she would have picked Dmitrieva. If she's going to the EC is because she wants it.
It is a different situation now. For instance, in Kabaeva's era, she didn't had any choice because at the time she was the number one. But in this case, Merkulova is no. 4! Why isn't Dmitrieva at her place? Because she has a problem with her clubs routine? Well, Merkulova has a problem with pretty much all her routines, she still needs to improve A LOT.
No one in this forum is bashing her. We are only stating our opinion saying she is not ready yet, which is an absolute truth!

(I'm sorry if my English is not clear Quiet )


Dmitrieva hurt her foot, or I'm sure it would be her going. Apparently there were pictures of her with a needle in her foot.

Many people are flat out saying that they hope she makes many mistakes, which I think is totally unfair. I consider that 'bashing'.

And your english is lovely! I wish people on Facebook had your english skills Evil Tounge
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