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Hoops and Grand Fouettes
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butterflyRG
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Posted: Fri, 10-Jul-2015 5:26 Post subject: |
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According to the drawing lot:http://www.fig-gymnastics.com/site/site/download?fileId=2128. Each country does 10, not 12 routines.... |
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Gergely
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Posted: Sat, 11-Jul-2015 8:03 Post subject: |
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That's a good question. I think qualification to the AA will be as usual, 3 routines count.
I'm not sure though how many routines count into the team competition, a lot of countries are with only 2 gymnasts. But I think it should be 10 (it cannot be 12, no. 3 gymnasts are listed with 2 apparatus). That would mean that for example the hosts, Germany are not starting in the team competition. _________________ "Time is a great teacher; unfortunately it kills all its pupils." |
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Gergely
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Posted: Sat, 22-Aug-2015 22:01 Post subject: |
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The latest version states that:
"The best ranked eligible NOCs not already qualified as per the results of the Individual ranking of the Qualification Competition (CI) of the 2015 World Championships (22 quota places)"
Which is plain stupid. This means that for example if Ukraine cannot qualify 2 gymnasts directly (AA top 15 at the Worlds), they can only have one in Rio, as the NOC already has qualified.
That's a good rule for us, but looks absolutely stupid, to be frank. This punishes the countries with a not top 15, but mid-high level 2nd gymnast (or countries with 2 mid-high level gymnasts, see Finland).
http://www.fig-gymnastics.com/publicdir/rules/files/olympic/Rio%202016-Qualification-system.pdf _________________ "Time is a great teacher; unfortunately it kills all its pupils." |
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butterflyRG
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Posted: Mon, 24-Aug-2015 7:22 Post subject: |
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This certainly favors powerhouses, and Ukraine has actually good chance to have two qualified I think. Certainly also Russia, ISR, BLR maybe BUL. So only another five countries are left: KOR,GEO,UZB,FRA and AZE. Who will be punished: UZB, AZE,JPN , USA, GER, SPA etc. |
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Gergely
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Posted: Mon, 24-Aug-2015 8:30 Post subject: |
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I'm highly doubtful that BUL can qualify 2 gymnasts in the top 15. Also, not sure about UKR. I think RUS and BLR are sure to have 2 gymnasts and ISR very likely.
I'd add Finland to the ones who will suffer, they have two potential top 25 gymnasts but no top 15s. _________________ "Time is a great teacher; unfortunately it kills all its pupils." |
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butterflyRG
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Posted: Tue, 25-Aug-2015 7:00 Post subject: |
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Will individual AA qualification or CI count 3 or 4 routine scores for AA finals? |
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coolmadgick
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Posted: Tue, 25-Aug-2015 10:05 Post subject: |
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Gergely wrote: | I'm highly doubtful that BUL can qualify 2 gymnasts in the top 15. Also, not sure about UKR. I think RUS and BLR are sure to have 2 gymnasts and ISR very likely.
I'd add Finland to the ones who will suffer, they have two potential top 25 gymnasts but no top 15s. |
Actually, only Russia will have two gymnasts for sure. BLR has two good gymnasts, but one of them is not stable, same for ISR, and Ukraine. Actually, this system only favor Russia, according to me. _________________ instagram.com/coolmadgick1 |
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Gergely
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Posted: Tue, 25-Aug-2015 16:02 Post subject: |
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butterflyRG wrote: | Will individual AA qualification or CI count 3 or 4 routine scores for AA finals? |
IIRC it's 3 scores out of 4 for qualification into AA final. The automatic Olympic qualification spots will be decided by the final itself, so 4/4 there. _________________ "Time is a great teacher; unfortunately it kills all its pupils." |
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Gergely
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Posted: Tue, 25-Aug-2015 16:05 Post subject: |
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coolmadgick wrote: | Gergely wrote: | I'm highly doubtful that BUL can qualify 2 gymnasts in the top 15. Also, not sure about UKR. I think RUS and BLR are sure to have 2 gymnasts and ISR very likely.
I'd add Finland to the ones who will suffer, they have two potential top 25 gymnasts but no top 15s. |
Actually, only Russia will have two gymnasts for sure. BLR has two good gymnasts, but one of them is not stable, same for ISR, and Ukraine. Actually, this system only favor Russia, according to me. |
Well it's not their problem that only they have 2 dead certain top 15s
I bet Halkina will made it into the top 15 and I'd risk a bet for both Israelis, too, but indeed, Rivkin especially is prone to meltdowns. _________________ "Time is a great teacher; unfortunately it kills all its pupils." |
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Hoops and Grand Fouettes
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Gergely
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Posted: Tue, 25-Aug-2015 19:07 Post subject: |
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Yes, it definitely sucks for them. It dawned on me that the qualification system is in line with IOC's wishes, which goes for universality, so a wide range of nations should be qualifying. _________________ "Time is a great teacher; unfortunately it kills all its pupils." |
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maksymehappy
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Posted: Tue, 25-Aug-2015 22:25 Post subject: |
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Quote: | Participation rights: Participation in the 2016 Olympic Games Test Event will be limited to:
Gymnasts from the NOCs ranked 1st to 3rd as per the Individual ranking results of CII (All-Around Final) of the 2015 world Championships.As these NOCs will already be qualified for the Rio 2016 Olympic Games, the results of these gymnasts will not be considered for the purpose of qualification. |
?? Why mention them in the first place? Are they invitiing gymnasts to the test event who can not qualify (hc) ? |
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Gergely
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Posted: Tue, 25-Aug-2015 22:38 Post subject: |
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maksymehappy wrote: | Quote: | Participation rights: Participation in the 2016 Olympic Games Test Event will be limited to:
Gymnasts from the NOCs ranked 1st to 3rd as per the Individual ranking results of CII (All-Around Final) of the 2015 world Championships.As these NOCs will already be qualified for the Rio 2016 Olympic Games, the results of these gymnasts will not be considered for the purpose of qualification. |
?? Why mention them in the first place? Are they invitiing gymnasts to the test event who can not qualify (hc) ? |
Yes.
All Olympic test events have to be in the very same format as the Olympic events, so the organisers need to have 26 gymnasts. 22 going for qualification + host gymnast + 3 medalists from Stuttgart (it was the same in London, just with 24). _________________ "Time is a great teacher; unfortunately it kills all its pupils." |
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butterflyRG
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Posted: Tue, 25-Aug-2015 22:43 Post subject: |
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I believe only those top 15 plus 16-24 who can qualify will be allowed in test event. So all future Olympians will have a test run in Rio. |
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