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3rhythmicgirls



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PostPosted: Fri, 9-May-2008 15:37    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=P6-bum5JK5A from 45 -50 seconds

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YcmoFUrKu7c from 20-24 seconds

Thanks for your help!!!
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PostPosted: Fri, 9-May-2008 16:00    Post subject: Reply with quote

3rhythmicgirls wrote:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=P6-bum5JK5A from 45 -50 seconds

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YcmoFUrKu7c from 20-24 seconds

Thanks for your help!!!
Very Happy


I dont know what others would call it... But in England, the first one starts as a penchee, into a forward walkover to flexion, then up to straight ring... I dont know if it has a combination name?

The second one is straight ring, to flexion, then up to straight ring again... again, I dont know if it has a combination name?

Sorry if that hasnt helped! Lol Embarassed
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PostPosted: Sat, 10-May-2008 18:23    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you...we call the first one walk over into back balance and the next one we call back balance/arch back/back balance but we know they are not the technical names. We were trying to explain them to a coach through an email and wanted to know if their was technical names for these. Embarassed
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PostPosted: Tue, 20-May-2008 9:38    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am sorry but how penchee looks like? I know it's a funny question. They say it is found in an arabesque movement. Embarassed
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PostPosted: Tue, 20-May-2008 10:16    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.barny-th.de//valentin2008/val08_10730_jpg.htm
panchee

http://www.barny-th.de//valentin2008/val08_03627_jpg.htm
panchee flexibility
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PostPosted: Tue, 20-May-2008 11:45    Post subject: Reply with quote

sofia wrote:
http://www.barny-th.de//valentin2008/val08_10730_jpg.htm
panchee

http://www.barny-th.de//valentin2008/val08_03627_jpg.htm
panchee flexibility


how about "planche"? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon, 26-May-2008 10:33    Post subject: Strange legs movements! Reply with quote

Why do these gymnasts wiggle their legs so strangely from 00:41 until 00:44???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDga8d_Zpow

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PostPosted: Mon, 26-May-2008 11:47    Post subject: Reply with quote

it is common for small children to make this during a freehands excercise. You will see it a lot of time when you watch freehands excercise of children (i'm not speaking about the best gymnasts in russia ofcourse, lower level).
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PostPosted: Fri, 30-May-2008 17:23    Post subject: Re: Strange legs movements! Reply with quote

Jennifer wrote:
Why do these gymnasts wiggle their legs so strangely from 00:41 until 00:44???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDga8d_Zpow

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It is just a little dance movement...
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PostPosted: Wed, 23-May-2012 17:11    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this supposed to be a pivot?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=CZbSeEtxrYY#t=10s
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PostPosted: Wed, 23-May-2012 17:21    Post subject: Reply with quote

akika10 wrote:
Is this supposed to be a pivot?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=CZbSeEtxrYY#t=10s


No, it's a slow turn on the knee. They existed back in the COP back then and a lot of gymnasts did them. Pivots on the knee did also exist but I only saw one gymnast perform them (probably because they are pretty knee-damaging): Yulia Golubenko in 2001/2002. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be videos of her performing that element on youtube Sad
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PostPosted: Wed, 23-May-2012 18:00    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jonathan wrote:

They existed back in the COP back then and a lot of gymnasts did them. Pivots on the knee did also exist but I only saw one gymnast perform them (probably because they are pretty knee-damaging)


I wonder how many knee replacements and injuries it took before they figured that out. Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Wed, 23-May-2012 18:03    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sery wrote:
sofia wrote:
http://www.barny-th.de//valentin2008/val08_10730_jpg.htm
panchee

http://www.barny-th.de//valentin2008/val08_03627_jpg.htm
panchee flexibility


how about "planche"? Very Happy


My coach calls them 'Penche'. I'm sure there's a technical name, but every coach probably has a different way of saying it.
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PostPosted: Wed, 23-May-2012 20:35    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I'm not mistaken then it costed something like 0,4 for the whole round. I did it for years and my knees are perfectly fine, so I wouldn't say that it was damaging.
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PostPosted: Thu, 24-May-2012 12:33    Post subject: Reply with quote

3rhythmicgirls wrote:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YcmoFUrKu7c from 20-24 seconds

Thanks for your help!!!
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I've heard this called an "utyasheva" but I would personally call it straight fish to back scale (and then back again haha) Smile
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