View previous topic | View next topic |
Author |
Message |
*Kalinka*
Joined: 09 Apr 2009 Posts: 2180 Location: Italy
|
Posted: Thu, 24-May-2012 19:25 Post subject: |
|
|
sora-chan2 wrote: |
I've heard this called an "utyasheva" but I would personally call it straight fish to back scale (and then back again haha) |
I think "Utyasheva" is the correct name, unless you want to call it "from back split to front split with trunk with trunk bent back (with movement back to the initial position)", like the CoP does, but it's a bit long!
Anyway I don't know why this element is called "Utyasheva", because it wasn't invented by her. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Anceps
Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 189 Location: Italy
|
Posted: Sat, 9-Jun-2012 22:47 Post subject: |
|
|
*Kalinka* wrote: | sora-chan2 wrote: |
I've heard this called an "utyasheva" but I would personally call it straight fish to back scale (and then back again haha) |
I think "Utyasheva" is the correct name, unless you want to call it "from back split to front split with trunk with trunk bent back (with movement back to the initial position)", like the CoP does, but it's a bit long!
Anyway I don't know why this element is called "Utyasheva", because it wasn't invented by her. |
I've always called it "Tchachina".
If I'm not wrong "Utyasheva" should be this element (1.04-1.05 min): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWbdcJn1eKE |
|
Back to top |
|
|
*Kalinka*
Joined: 09 Apr 2009 Posts: 2180 Location: Italy
|
Posted: Sun, 10-Jun-2012 20:23 Post subject: |
|
|
A lot of people calls it "Tchachina", other people call it "Utyasheva"... I'm not sure about which one is correct!
But both the names are strange, because this element existed even years before that Lyasan or Ira became famous. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Storm RSG.net Moderator
Joined: 02 Sep 2005 Posts: 4492 Location: Queensland, Australia
|
Posted: Mon, 11-Jun-2012 7:00 Post subject: |
|
|
Tchachina is the element when you go down in a balance on one knee.
Utiasheva is what Piscupescu does. Back split, catch of the leg, down, back up. Who invented it then? Utiasheva as I know, was the first to do it as a whole element : down-up-down. Before there were just the slip with catch of the leg. _________________ USE the same topics to ask, even if the links there are DEAD!
The POOR search button EXISTS! use it please.. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
*Kalinka*
Joined: 09 Apr 2009 Posts: 2180 Location: Italy
|
Posted: Mon, 11-Jun-2012 12:58 Post subject: |
|
|
Storm wrote: |
Utiasheva is what Piscupescu does. Back split, catch of the leg, down, back up. Who invented it then? Utiasheva as I know, was the first to do it as a whole element : down-up-down. Before there were just the slip with catch of the leg. |
Thanks, now it's clear! So probably the difficulty "back split + back scale" doesn't have a proper name? |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Anceps
Joined: 28 Sep 2006 Posts: 189 Location: Italy
|
Posted: Mon, 11-Jun-2012 13:00 Post subject: |
|
|
Storm wrote: | Tchachina is the element when you go down in a balance on one knee. |
Don't understand what element you're talking about...
And then, what's the name of this element (1.04-1.05 min)?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWbdcJn1eKE |
|
Back to top |
|
|
*Kalinka*
Joined: 09 Apr 2009 Posts: 2180 Location: Italy
|
Posted: Mon, 11-Jun-2012 13:21 Post subject: |
|
|
Anceps wrote: | Storm wrote: | Tchachina is the element when you go down in a balance on one knee. |
Don't understand what element you're talking about...
|
I think she was talking about an element like this (1:30-1:32): http://youtu.be/9c1X1zchz3w?t=1m30s
Anyway I have heard the "Tchachina" name also for turns in which you go down on one knee. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Storm RSG.net Moderator
Joined: 02 Sep 2005 Posts: 4492 Location: Queensland, Australia
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
*Kalinka*
Joined: 09 Apr 2009 Posts: 2180 Location: Italy
|
Posted: Mon, 11-Jun-2012 14:22 Post subject: |
|
|
No, I meant pivots with progressive bending of the supporting leg (similiar to the balances you posted, but during pivots), like this one:
http://youtu.be/pOAYFqFHvSA?t=1m33s
(even if I don't know if the gymnast in the video performed it in the correct way).
Anyway I don't remember Ira performing similiar pivots, so probably "Tchachina" is an uncorrect name for calling this kind of pivots. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Storm RSG.net Moderator
Joined: 02 Sep 2005 Posts: 4492 Location: Queensland, Australia
|
Posted: Tue, 12-Jun-2012 2:25 Post subject: |
|
|
I didn't even know it was an element. It seems just a transition from standing to the floor level.
Definitely not "Tchachina". Tchachina's is a balance as far as I know _________________ USE the same topics to ask, even if the links there are DEAD!
The POOR search button EXISTS! use it please.. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
halkonyat
Joined: 01 Jan 2012 Posts: 214 Location: Hungary
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
Denisa
Joined: 29 May 2010 Posts: 42 Location: Bucharest
|
Posted: Wed, 13-Jun-2012 8:07 Post subject: |
|
|
Back split with side roll
I think it's a boomerang throw (even if it is not performed in a "classical" way). Someone can confirm? |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Tahnee RSG.net Moderator
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 3296 Location: Perth, Australia
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
halkonyat
Joined: 01 Jan 2012 Posts: 214 Location: Hungary
|
Posted: Wed, 13-Jun-2012 14:59 Post subject: |
|
|
Thank you! |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Lau
Joined: 27 Nov 2004 Posts: 154
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
|