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AleksandraFan
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Lau
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Thank you!!!! _________________ IRA TCHACHINA forever |
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Cipelly
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They are pivot fouettè in attitude.. With the new CoP they don't exist anymore (pivot fouettè only in passè and with leg at the horizontal).. About its value under previous code I can't remember... maybe 0.30 first rotation +0.20 for each additional rotation?!? _________________ Go Golden Butterflies!! |
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halkonyat
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Posted: Tue, 9-Jul-2013 17:34 Post subject: |
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Cipelly wrote: | They are pivot fouettè in attitude.. With the new CoP they don't exist anymore (pivot fouettè only in passè and with leg at the horizontal).. About its value under previous code I can't remember... maybe 0.30 first rotation +0.20 for each additional rotation?!? |
Thank you! Very interesting pivot in my opinion. |
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Paleeya
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Posted: Mon, 23-Jun-2014 7:51 Post subject: |
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maybe I'm sound stupid but could somone tell me what is the name of this pivot?
is this an attitude pivot with trunk bend backward or sth else? _________________ Sessina ♥ Kanaeva ♥ Dmitrieva ♥ Mamun ♥ Mazur |
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halkonyat
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Posted: Mon, 23-Jun-2014 19:37 Post subject: |
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Paleeya wrote: | maybe I'm sound stupid but could somone tell me what is the name of this pivot?
is this an attitude pivot with trunk bend backward or sth else? |
I would say it's a ring pivot without hand support... but I'm not sure |
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Paleeya
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Posted: Mon, 23-Jun-2014 19:59 Post subject: |
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halkonyat wrote: | Paleeya wrote: | maybe I'm sound stupid but could somone tell me what is the name of this pivot?
is this an attitude pivot with trunk bend backward or sth else? |
I would say it's a ring pivot without hand support... but I'm not sure |
thank you I was thinking about ring pivot too
but I thought her left leg in ring pivot(without help) was supposed to be higher like Yussupova always did.
_________________ Sessina ♥ Kanaeva ♥ Dmitrieva ♥ Mamun ♥ Mazur |
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halkonyat
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Posted: Tue, 24-Jun-2014 9:55 Post subject: |
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Paleeya wrote: |
but I thought her left leg in ring pivot(without help) was supposed to be higher like Yussupova always did.
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to be honest, I don't have a clue what kind of pivot could that be! But it's beautiful, and unfortunately I haven't seen it for years |
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yannch
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Posted: Wed, 25-Jun-2014 13:26 Post subject: |
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halkonyat wrote: | Paleeya wrote: |
but I thought her left leg in ring pivot(without help) was supposed to be higher like Yussupova always did.
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to be honest, I don't have a clue what kind of pivot could that be! But it's beautiful, and unfortunately I haven't seen it for years |
In my opinion, it's an attitude pivot with trunk backbend.
In a ring pivot, the free leg is higher than the horizontal and goes towards the head. In a pivot with trunk back bend, the head goes down to reach the leg, as far as I remember the lessons learned... |
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Paleeya
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Posted: Wed, 25-Jun-2014 14:07 Post subject: |
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yannch wrote: |
In my opinion, it's an attitude pivot with trunk backbend.
In a ring pivot, the free leg is higher than the horizontal and goes towards the head. In a pivot with trunk back bend, the head goes down to reach the leg, as far as I remember the lessons learned... |
thanks for you help.
is there another gymnast who did this? can you give me the example if you ever saw?
because I only saw Kanaeva did and want to see if there's another did this.
I saw Son Yeon Jae did attitude pivot with backbend but her foot didn't touch her head. Is it the same to Kanaeva's? (In term of element's name and cop) _________________ Sessina ♥ Kanaeva ♥ Dmitrieva ♥ Mamun ♥ Mazur |
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yannch
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Posted: Wed, 25-Jun-2014 15:15 Post subject: |
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Paleeya wrote: | yannch wrote: |
In my opinion, it's an attitude pivot with trunk backbend.
In a ring pivot, the free leg is higher than the horizontal and goes towards the head. In a pivot with trunk back bend, the head goes down to reach the leg, as far as I remember the lessons learned... |
thanks for you help.
is there another gymnast who did this? can you give me the example if you ever saw?
because I only saw Kanaeva did and want to see if there's another did this.
I saw Son Yeon Jae did attitude pivot with backbend but her foot didn't touch her head. Is it the same to Kanaeva's? (In term of element's name and cop) |
If you talk about the beginning of the 2014 Hoop routine of Son Yeon Jae, in my opinon it is the same element: attitude pivot with truck back bend.
However, the execution is not quite the same quality as Kanaeva's... |
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Artistry Fan
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Paleeya
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Posted: Fri, 27-Jun-2014 7:20 Post subject: |
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thanks but aren't some of these supposed to be ring pivot+back bend without help?
and some are attitude pivot with back bend?
or all of these are the same element? so is it ring or attitude pivot?
can someone clarify my confusing _________________ Sessina ♥ Kanaeva ♥ Dmitrieva ♥ Mamun ♥ Mazur |
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Paleeya
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Posted: Sat, 4-Oct-2014 16:28 Post subject: |
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what's the name of this leap?????
is this double ring jump that Zhukova used to perform? http://www.barny-th.de/patras2007/wm07_01863_jpg.htm
but the position of the (lower)leg is quite different. but maybe just the angle. _________________ Sessina ♥ Kanaeva ♥ Dmitrieva ♥ Mamun ♥ Mazur
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